Everyone, it seems is drawn to the top of the pedestal. To be admired by others, thought influential in their field, and to reap the financial rewards of being at the top of the heap is often equated with success. Should it be? Brad and Wayne discuss the lure of the pedestal and what it does to people who seek it, even if they fail to gain it. While acknowledging that there's a world of difference between having influence because of the quality of someone's life and message and seeking that influence to be thought successful. But at what cost to honesty and integrity do people pay to try to hold on to a pedestal they've fallen in love with. The life of Jesus is not passed on through people on pedestals, but by relational engagements where we are alongside people helping them explore their own growing relationship with him. Oh, and that invites yet another discussion about Promisekeepers and the lessons learned from mass movements, genuine passion, and human ambition.