A Life of Growing Trust
Can we trust God to watch over us even if you're not doing all we think you need to do, or even if things don't turn out the way we hoped? Because Wayne and Brad couldn't get their schedules together, Wayne invites Renee, an OB-GYN from Austin, TX and a previous guest on The God Journey, to be the guest co-host for a conversation that began in Wayne's living room about growing to trust God in the real issues of and opportunities of life. The conversation explores the joy of finding community with other brothers and sisters in less managed environments, how busyness an distract us from what's most important in our lives, and dealing with the nagging accusation about whether or not we are "doing enough" to be part of what God is doing in the world.
Renee's previous appearance on The God Journey
Renee's Blog Lead Me On
Resources that helped Renee deal with sexual brokenness.
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This was a very life giving message. Thank you so much Wayne and Renee. I can’t believe how many questions you helped to answer with your discussion.
I am been free from the perceived need to attend the SMS (Sunday Morning Service) for a while now, but I was getting stumped on ‘where to next?’ I have developed some beautiful relationships with about 3 people who have also been set free from the requirement of SMS. We occasionally get together, more one on one than as a group and have enjoyed beautiful fellowship together, building each other up in our personal relationship with the Lord.
However I was starting to worry if that ‘was enough’ as you mentioned in the podcast, but when I look back at these relationships I realise that God did it all anyway. I didn’t set about getting close to these people, but God opened the door and thankfully I had the sense to walk through it. So that encourages me that He will continue to open the doors to those He wants me to be in relationship with regardless of whether it is a short or long term relationship. I don’t have to try to make anything happen out of my strength or wisdom.
I am so encouraged by the things you talked about and I know I will be listening to it over and over again to cement in me the truth of these revelations.
Blessings to you both
great podcast! reminded me of this email —
Satan called a worldwide convention of demons.
In his opening address he said,
“We can’t keep Christians from going to church.”
“We can’t keep them from reading their Bibles and knowing the truth….”
“We can’t even keep them from forming an intimate relationship with
“Once they gain that connection with JESUS, our power over them is
“So let them go to their churches; let them have their covered dish dinners,
BUT steal their time, so they don’t have time to develop a relationship
With JESUS CHRIST..”
“This is what I want you to do,” said the devil:
“How shall we do this?” his demons shouted.
“Keep them busy in the non-essentials of life and invent innumerable
Schemes to occupy their minds,” he answered….
“Tempt them to spend, spend, spend, and borrow, borrow, borrow.”
“Persuade the wives to go to work for long hours and the husbands to work
6-7 days each week, 10-12 hours a day, so they can afford their empty
“Keep them from spending time with their children.”
“As their families fragment, soon, their homes will offer no escape from
The pressures of work!”
“Over-stimulate their minds so that they cannot hear that still, small voice.”
“Entice them to play the radio or I-Pod whenever they drive.” To
Keep the TV, DVDs, CDs and their PCs going constantly in their home and see
To it that every store and restaurant in the world plays non-biblical music
“Let them play Lil Farm, Farmville and other Facebook games in their computer the whole day so that their time got consumed in that activity alone”
“This will jam their minds and break that union with CHRIST.”
“Fill the coffee tables with magazines and newspapers.”
“Pound their minds with the news 24 hours a day.”
“Invade their driving moments with billboards.”
“Flood their mailboxes with junk mail, mail order catalogs, sweepstakes, and
Every kind of newsletter and promotional offering free products, services
And false hopes.”
“Keep skinny, beautiful models on the magazines and TV so their husbands
Will believe that outward beauty is what’s important, and they’ll
Become dissatisfied with their wives. ”
“Keep the wives too tired to love their husbands at night.”
“Give them headaches too! ”
“If they don’t give their husbands the love they need, they will begin to
“That will fragment their families quickly!”
“Give them Santa Claus to distract them from teaching their children the
Real meaning of Christmas..”
“Give them an Easter bunny so they won’t talk about HIS resurrection
And power over sin and death…”
“Even in their recreation, let them be excessive.”
“Have them return from their recreation exhausted.”
“Keep them too busy to go out in nature and reflect on GOD’S creation.
Send them to amusement parks, sporting events, plays, concerts, and movies
“Keep them busy, busy, busy!”
“And when they meet for spiritual fellowship, involve them in gossip and
Small talk so that they leave with troubled consciences. ”
“Crowd their lives with so many good causes they have no time to seek
Power from JESUS.”
“Soon they will be working in their own strength, sacrificing their health
And family for the good of the cause.”
“It will work!”
“It will work!”
It was quite a plan!
The demons went eagerly to their assignments causing Christians everywhere
To get busier & more rushed, going here & there.
Having little time for their GOD or their families.
Having no time to tell others about the power of JESUS to change lives.
I guess the question is, has the devil been successful in his schemes?
You be the judge!!!!!
Does “BUSY” mean: B-eing U-nder S-atan’s Y-oke?
Hearing the phrase “enough for God” reminds me of the podcast where Wayne says, “Don’t should on yourself and don’t should on others” …. I have found that so helpful in my journey of living in Him and among others. I wonder where the whole concept of “doing for Jesus” comes from/got started? It seems more of a (western) cultural dynamic rather than what’s intended by Him without/within cultural boundaries….?
Great podcast. I could really relate to Renee’s journey of transition from IC to house church to more of a real family reality based on relationships and natural instead of a meeting you attend. Been through a period of similar transition myself and I agree that the meeting can be good for some as the only way to connect, but after awhile you need to take some personal responsibility for investing into the relationships you feel God drawing you into or the meeting develops a sense of fakeness amongst people who only see each other at meetings but don’t really knoe each other any more intimately than when the meetings began. Trusting God to lead me to the people He wants me to connect more deeply with and not trying to force it when it is obviously a one sided relationship has been freeing for me. God is able to bring us into a real , not perfect, expression of a caring spiritual family and I think lots of people are longing for that.