Exit Ramps to Nowhere

After listening to our recent podcast about "Living Beyond Your Transformation" one person came to the discovery that they were in a situation where they were asking others to live beyond their transformation. That takes Wayne and Brad down a wonderful track of doing to others what isn't even helpful to do for ourselves. Encouraging others to live by what we think is best for them, when it is beyond their own growing trust in their Father, is fruitless. Living in freedom doesn't focus on what others are doing, but only what Father is asking of us and can only happen in us when we are contented in his love and provision, rather than scheming for the things we want or think we deserve.

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  1. β€œAlas,” said Aslan, shaking his head. “It will. Things always work according to their nature. She has won her heart’s desire; she has unwearying strength and endless days like a goddess. But length of days with an evil heart is only length of misery and already she begins to know it. All get what they want; they do not always like it.”

    Magician’s Nephew by C.S. Lewis

    This is such a cool quote.

  2. Thanks Wayne and Brad! Again…profound depth to a topic Father has been walking me through this week. Seems there’s so many levels to sorting out this relationship with Him and then walking through relationships with others. Competition and comparing are so unhelpful when done with an attitude of “get, get, why don’t I have more…get, get get.” I continue to be amazed at His patience…it takes a long time for this to untwist. Thankfully there’s no “program” or “formula”…His walk with me is uniquely designed out of His intimate knowledge of who I am. Learning to look less and less at what He’s doing in others and enjoy this relationship with Him. I loved hearing both of you describe your perspective on not watching the website to see how many listeners or to compare your numbers with others. Know that there are many being impacted you don’t know about : ) Blessings

  3. Great podcast. I loved the joy bit at the end. Not to fix us. He laid the big guns down. I love Brad’s laughter. But I think, the times when my kids brought joy to my heart were always times when they were completely unaware. I am continuously surprised by Joy. The thought that anything about me could bring a joy of any level to Abba’s heart makes me weep and takes my breath away. I love that when that happens. I know Joy and I think I have been operating as if its one direction, His Love towards me, but to know it works in reverse. That’s like WoW. wow. Is it true? really?… cool.

  4. Is this not what happens when I stick 600 people in a building, call them my flock and feed them ‘my’ word??

  5. Thank you for this special podcast; I have translated it in German to bring it at our next meeting,here in Germany, if you allow. It is so important to let God do the work in the hearts of others, he knows them better, he knows where they are at, and he does it in love. May God help me to grow firm in this. Thank you, once more.

  6. Thanks so much for your insights. Really helping me through a time of wondering. What was the passage about God’s comment to David that you eluded to?

  7. Wayne and Brad,

    Just wanted to let you know I’m one of the “dozen” people that listen to your podcasts. I’m glad you think we’re worth the time/effort. πŸ™‚

    PS We are!

  8. Great conversation guys, have not been here in a while always a pleasure stopping by to share in your conversations. The highlight for me in this conversation was what Brad said about us being ignorant of the reality that God has a will and he is free to exercise it. When he could have responded in wrath he responded in mercy. That in my opinion is powerful and liberating, I am encouraged to trust him more as he exerts his will in my life and the life of those he has put in my life, knowing that he has nothing but love for me. He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things?(Romans 8:32). I will rest in His love.

  9. Thanks guys, I have repented from religion. I have come to understand, I am to be led by the Spirit, not the law.

  10. Thanks so much guys for this podcast. I have been listening for a couple years now and just draw so much from your real, “ever expanding conversation”. Today I found this podcast especially helpful. Me and my wife have been on an awesome journey of coming to know God apart from the religious confines we have put him in for so long and it has been amazing. It really has taken 2 years now for us to really come to a place of comfort in where we are at, no matter what people say or how they judge us. However, most recently I have found myself starting to backslide. Not backsliding in the traditional “heathen” sense, but backsliding back to the old self, the religious mindset that we have been freed from for some time now. We have been going through some frustrating financial times and I catch myself wondering why that is. I find myself thinking, “is it because we haven’t been tithing”? Is the pseudo spiritual principle of “if you tithe I will bless you” really actually true? Is it because we have cut ourselves off from the institution, and so, is that actually a better place to be? Also, through this time I have noticed God bring me to a realization that I really have a hard time being happy for people who are financially doing well or able to afford more “luxuries” than us, and I know this attitude is not God’s best for me. Hearing your podcast today (along with “Rainbows and Mountain Lions”) has brought me back to the place of trusting the journey He has put us on. Second guessing, worrying about tithing, wondering if spiritual principles and doctrine are good for me, and the “unfairness” I feel for those more fortunate than us are definitely exit points to nowhere. I long to rest in the fact the God loves me in equal abundance to everyone else in my life, and to view those around me in that light. I know that I am so free from the noose of religion but every once in a while I feel the knot tightening around my neck and I just need a gentle reminder( like this podcast), that all I have to do is take off the rope. God is not there threatening to tighten the rope or kick the chair from under me if I don’t tithe, read my bible, save all my friends, or go to church. He is there with an outstretched arm helping me down, cutting the rope for good. Now if I could just stop tying my own noose, everything would be fine πŸ™‚

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