Bigger Than Our Mistakes (#765)
Will God be with me, even when I take an ill-advised detour? In this deeply personal conversation, Kyle explores with Wayne a broken place in his heart that God has shown his light on this summer. A hurtful conversation he had at fourteen years of age, expressed themselves in some difficult professional decisions this summer and in fracturing his partnership with his wife. With the light, Father gave them a way to disarm the effects of this conversation and how it adversely impacted his trust in God, especially in difficult situation. We really do serve a God that is bigger than our most painful mistakes, who will never leave us to our own devices.
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Thank you Wayne and Kyle for sharing this processing with us. As others have found these conversations helpful, I also am seeing the fruit of Father and Jesus working this unravelling of shame and performance in my life. Blessings
Hi Sue, I think you might be the same “Sue” who replied to my last comment to one of Wayne’s recent posts. I would like to connect with you more closely. ?
Oh my my, I am in tears, erupted during Kyle’s prayer, and then more during yours, Wayne. I prayed, “Oh Father, Kyle is praying my prayer…,” …I am so shaken at how Father is touching my life the last few days. What a heart-filled time, Wayne and Kyle. This is so rich, because on the inside of the legalism I was buried under for 50 years, my heart was so crushed and broken, for decades, with preaching from Jeremiah 17:9, from Old Covenant law, that for most of my life, I could not even give attention to what my heart was directing. I renounced it for years as probably just more pride, (self condemnation). Shame has been the continual “traffic director” of my mind.
This is SO GREAT! I had so many statements made to me during my pre-teen years, that scarred me for life. Thank you so much for this stellar broadcast.
Wow. Kyle thank you for the courage to share this. I can relate to this so much. Wow. … still processing but know that this is the best podcast I have ever listened to. Thank you.
Hi Lindy, yes I am the same Sue and I am open to connecting…wonder how the best way works without giving private emails out here : )
I can send you each other’s emails if you both approve. Write me at firstname.lastname@example.org with the email you’d want me to use.
So like you, Wayne, to respond to our need to connect. Thanks! I will email you and I am looking forward to that connection with Sue. 🙂
I don’t even have to listen to this to KNOW that the answer is always YES!
Truly appreciate the beauty shared in the podcast. Thank you for the privilege of listening in to the conversation. It was incredibly moving.
Thanks Wayne. I also will email you.
Hi Sue ? I have been checking my email for your initial email. Hope you are having a good day.
Hi Ladies and Wayne,
Come on GUYS, where are all of you! This was a great conversation! Maybe one of the best, but I’ve not listened to them all.
“And Jacob said to Pharaoh, “The days of the years of my pilgrimage are one hundred and thirty years; few and evil have been the days of the years of my life”
As we get older, gracefully & mercifully, we gradually, bit by bit, throw off some baggage laid on us by our fathers…that which was laid on them by their fathers before them, and on and on and on. It is the accusations about Father that I’ve believed that have so completely wrecked my life and maybe caused me to hurt those that I should’ve been loving.
It is my prayer that every man and father who listens to this podcast will stop seeing our heavenly Father’s love through the fractured lens of how they see the love of their earthly father. But instead that we all would be able to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ!!! And then live that really, really awesome news!
I so agree. Yes. That baggage, (I had layer after layer, now realizing just how many hits I took of lies ) so I called it “spiritual sediment” and as it belched up into my consciousness when triggered, I would stumble again and go again, like riding a raft on the Colorado River. The turbulence was like a blood hound on my trail. I still struggle to one degree or another.
And now my own grown children are realizing the hits they took at my own hand, as I reacted to the religious teachings of a performance-based cult church. My heart breaks at the pressures they grew up under…that they still suffer.
Thanks Kyle & Wayne, not so easy to let this personal stuff go public. As with others the stuff God blessed you by digging up has thrown up similar nonsense in me. So good.
This is one of those very rare experiences in which we as listeners get to bear witness to a sacred moment when a conversation transforms into holy communion. Kyle, thank you for revealing the raw tenderness of a 14 year old boy who hears a message that profoundly affects him until he offers that which is submerged in the darkness of his soul and exposes it to the light of a trusted mentor who gently casts a different perspective on the experience. Kyle and Wayne, thank you for showing us how sharing our story can loose the perceptions that haunt and choke us in order to receive the compassion of love that never fails and that will never leave us alone. I am so grateful that you shared this. Thank you.
I almost switched off the podcast at the prayer part – felt it was a sacred moment that was between Kyle and God. So glad I didn’t cause the words about “falling back into” and the difference between performance and relationship really struck me.
A number of years ago I had that mentality, for example maxing out the credit card and thinking I needed to sort it out by trying harder to skimp and save and clear it before I could ask God for financial help. Having our lives turned upside down to a point of not believing God existed anymore, I came back to him like a toddler in the faith and let him lead, literally saying “God if you want this relationship, you’re going to have to do all the work.” I was even amazed when I said to God “I really stuffed up financially – can you help me fix it” and he did! Encouragement came from the weirdest and most unexpected places, and funds to pay off the credit card just poured in.
I’m also from a “if you don’t work you don’t eat” background and learning to live by love and grace. I’m interested in your thoughts about how self-control as a fruit of the spirit fits with performance and relationship with God.
Glad you stayed on too, Rosa. If it had been too private, we wouldn’t have run it. Love your suggestion at the end. We’ll have to fit that in some time…. (Wayne)
Where can I find the podcast before this one, about prophecy that Kyle mentioned?
I think it might be this one: https://www.thegodjourney.com/2020/08/28/prophecies-and-conspiracy-theories-763/
Oh Rosa, I so relate. Thank you for sharing your heart. ? Kyle’s prayer, it does rather remind me of how King David prayed. Also, I have been learning that when His people share so intimately, it is soul/heart nourishment for building…for healing.
I am glad for you.
Thank you everyone for your kind words and for being willing to share how this risk has encouraged you. It is a blessing to me and I am thankful Wayne and My conversation was an encouragement to you.
I believe, Kyle, that the whole conversation and prayer gave us a shining Light into why Jesus called the church His Body, because it was meant to function as Christ’s human body did, i.e., all parts responding in the workings of the internal organs in His perfect Human Body, both God and Son of Man.
My take: You both gave us a huge window into pure fellowship. Thank you both so very much. I view it as I do a healthy human body works. i..e. the liver and pancreas are keenly aware of the needs of each other, with the brain (The Head) busily sending messages, responding to all the rest of the body. Wayne was so apt at pulling the depth of your story up and out of you for the edification of The Body. When one part of a human body hurts or experiences pleasure, then the whole body is engaged. Hormones and enzymes just “fly” around inside us. And, oh my my, the immune system must truly represent the whole armor of God. Now I am motivated to listen again!
Beautiful. Thank you for your courage to share. Able to do some deep reflection on my hurts I have held onto and also prepared me to stay humble and be listening on how my good intentioned conversations with my own adult children may have landed very poorly with them as children and what hurts and limitations developed and be able to navigate them as they arise. Thank you again!